VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

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Mamonetti

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Poser_Voyeur said:
You see this is what I believe that L&P should have been doing from the start. IIRC we are on Playable Day 18. Imagine if we had already had time jumps so that we were already say 3-4 months into the story? It would have made the change in Sophia's character and attitudes far more realistic. A few renders to show in flashbacks what had happened in the days we had skipped over.

Will be happy if L&P does it now going forward so long as we don't miss any key events.
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Right now we are on playable day 12, but I don't think we've missed too much from the previous time jump (it happened too early for that).

However, for Aiden's path this is quite different and for me this is the most obvious case. Can you imagine what Sophia may have to do for the 10th task? Based on what has happened so far and if it's true what people have suggested about the 3rd task (some selfies of Sophia in underwear), we might be talking about nude pictures to say the least.

If that was the case, it would make no sense not to know what happened in between.

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mamamam33333 said:
Okay you enumerate only excuses here seeing that you being a dev is normal i would say... but i do wonder why let's say a game like COB(city of broken dreamers) don't have these excuses and that the game thread is only full with praises, maybe because of the dev work ethic where if he doesn't work on his game he pauses his patreon page, cuz he's givin out a game at regular pace with compelling story and action on every release, he updates regularly his patreons of the game status... oh and he also a one team member...:unsure::unsure::unsure:
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City of Broken Dreamers =/= A Wife and Mother
Phillygames =/= Lust & Passion

Each project is unique, and each developer has their own strengths and weaknesses.

City of Broken Dreamers is a superb game, and I'm not going to knock Philly's work ethic. Depraved Awaking was really good before that too. Philly is very solid all around when it comes to game development. He is exceptionally talented in many areas of game development. You say it's one person? I'm doubtful of that. With that level of production quality at that level of output it feels like it has to be at small team of good developers working together. If it truly is just one guy as you say it's even more impressive. His last release was over 800 renders plus like 60 animations!? Plus all the writing and coding? Do you have any idea how much work that is?

It's like saying "Well, Micheal Jordan averaged over 30 points per game. How come this other NBA player isn't scoring as many baskets!? Is he not working as hard as Jordan?"

L&P is talented, but comparing pretty much anyone to Philly in order to dog them is just a dick move lol.

L&P due to his creation style will forever be plagued with haters. Even if over the next 3 updates eventually L&P gets more renders some animations and she breaks away from the blue balls. It'll be a different crowd of haters then... People who have grown to the blue balls that don't want to see that change. It has been so deeply engraved into this game.
 
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yihman1 said:
City of Broken Dreamers =/= A Wife and Mother
Phillygames =/= Lust & Passion

Each project is unique, and each developer has their own strengths and weaknesses.

City of Broken Dreamers is a superb game, and I'm not going to knock Philly's work ethic. Depraved Awaking was really good before that too. Philly is very solid all around when it comes to game development. He is exceptionally talented in many areas of game development. You say it's one person? I'm doubtful of that. With that level of production quality at that level of output it feels like it has to be at small team of good developers working together. If it truly is just one guy as you say it's even more impressive. His last release was over 800 renders plus like 60 animations!? Plus all the writing and coding? Do you have any idea how much work that is?

It's like saying "Well, Micheal Jordan averaged over 30 points per game. How come this other NBA player isn't scoring as many baskets!? Is he not working as hard as Jordan?"

L&P is talented, but comparing pretty much anyone to Philly in order to dog them is just a dick move lol.

L&P due to his creation style will forever be plagued with haters. Even if over the next 3 updates eventually L&P gets more renders some animations and she breaks away from the blue balls. It'll be a different crowd of haters then... People who have grown to the blue balls that don't want to see that change. It has been so deeply engraved into this game.
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DPC.
 
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Mamonetti said:
As far as I remember, the drop is usually close to 150. As long as the number doesn't go below 1000, there's nothing to be worried about nor for us neither for L&P, and there won't be any major change.
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The previous high was 1373 patrons in September according to Graphtreon. Even with the recent drop he's still higher than that, 1379 last I checked
 
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We probably have 20-30 pages on almost every thread with 500+ pages,talking how the dev is losing patrons at the start of each month.
 
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Poser_Voyeur said:
You see this is what I believe that L&P should have been doing from the start. IIRC we are on Playable Day 18. Imagine if we had already had time jumps so that we were already say 3-4 months into the story? It would have made the change in Sophia's character and attitudes far more realistic. A few renders to show in flashbacks what had happened in the days we had skipped over.

Will be happy if L&P does it now going forward so long as we don't miss any key events.
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I only played the good wife route so far as this is the way I play before trying the others, but I am concerned how such a strong and moralistic woman could become corrupted in such a short period of time.
The idea of a timeskip of 3-4 months would certainly help make her decline into a loose woman seem more believable
 
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I think you're all a bunch of whiny cry babies who overreact to every single post or thing that AWAM has to offer and oh yeah, happy new year ya pervs. :D

Let's hope Sophia finally gets laid in 2021 and Liam doesn't count :D

I do hope L&P better organizes his updates in 2021, that is all I think he needs to do. Each update has 3/4 events featuring a combination of the following 3 event options.

1) Dylan or Friends circle event (Sam, Zach, Aiden, soccer coaching etc)
2) Ellie/Lesbian event (Ellie, Alyssa (Zach's mum), Maid, Julie, Patricia, etc)
3) Side story event (anything not related to Dylan or Ellie/Lesbian)

If every update consists of the above, think everyone be happier, no harm in adding a 4th event and doubling up 1 of them. Also can be some cross-events that feature maybe Sophia, Dylan and a side story event or another mix of characters from each of the 3.

I hope someone passes this suggestion on to L&P, as I really think it would help AWAM a lot but I'm not holding my breath he do what I suggest though.


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I'm only joking when calling y'all a bunch of whiny cry babies :)
 
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Notretsam said:
I think you're all a bunch of whiny cry babies who overreact to every single post or thing that AWAM has to offer and oh yeah, happy new year ya pervs. :D

Let's hope Sophia finally gets laid in 2021 and Liam doesn't count :D

I do hope L&P better organizes his updates in 2021, that is all I think he needs to do. Each update has 3/4 events featuring a combination of the following 3 event options.

1) Dylan or Friends circle event (Sam, Zach, Aiden, soccer coaching etc)
2) Ellie/Lesbian event (Ellie, Alyssa (Zach's mum), Maid, Julie, Patricia, etc)
3) Side story event (anything not related to Dylan or Ellie/Lesbian)

If every update consists of the above, think everyone be happier, no harm in adding a 4th event and doubling up 1 of them. Also can be some cross-events that feature maybe Sophia, Dylan and a side story event or another mix of characters from each of the 3.

I hope someone passes this suggestion on to L&P, as I really think it would help AWAM a lot but I'm not holding my breath he do what I suggest though.


DISCLAIMER
I'm only joking when calling y'all a bunch of whiny cry babies :)
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You know that in next 2 and 2/3 palyable days,there will be only 1 Sophia/Ellie event?
 
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Mamonetti said:
The last number I saw on day 29 or 30, not sure, was close to 1410.
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The highest was Dec 29, which was 1429. But checking his Patreon numbers now (since I only remembered about the delay on Graphtreon after my post) it's down to 1270. Which, as others have pointed out, is normal at the start of the month.

What I find curious is that his patron numbers were significantly lower since the previous update release for the first time, as opposed to the usual gradual increase. Are his patrons starting to vote with their wallets, and will this change how L&P releases his updates?
 
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Mamonetti

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Alley_Cat said:
The highest was Dec 29, which was 1429. But checking his Patreon numbers now (since I only remembered about the delay on Graphtreon after my post) it's down to 1270. Which, as others have pointed out, is normal at the start of the month.

What I find curious is that his patron numbers were significantly lower since the previous update release for the first time, as opposed to the usual gradual increase. Are his patrons starting to vote with their wallets, and will this change how L&P releases his updates?
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It's hard to tell, but I believe the evolution of this number during this year is going to be really representative of what patrons think about the current situation regarding development speed (not so much about quality, quantity or the story itself). After a couple more updates we'll see how things go.

What would be really informative is the amount of money L&P is receiving. I'm sure many patrons have switched to a lower level and that's why he/she decided to hide it.

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Alley_Cat said:
The highest was Dec 29, which was 1429. But checking his Patreon numbers now (since I only remembered about the delay on Graphtreon after my post) it's down to 1270. Which, as others have pointed out, is normal at the start of the month.

What I find curious is that his patron numbers were significantly lower since the previous update release for the first time, as opposed to the usual gradual increase. Are his patrons starting to vote with their wallets, and will this change how L&P releases his updates?
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The Patrons on his web page seemed very happy with the update and I have seen no complaints but if the patrons have been e-mailing L&P there grievances I couldn't say.
 
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Mamonetti said:
It's hard to tell, but I believe the evolution of this number during this year is going to be really representative of what patrons think about the current situation regarding development speed (not so much about quality, quantity or the story itself). After a couple more updates we'll see how things go.

What would be really informative is the amount of money L&P is receiving. I'm sure many patrons have switched to a lower level and that's why he/she decided to hide it.

Regards
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I guess a lot of people would of switched to a lower level as a legend patron would cost you almost £30/$41.02/€41.02 a month depending on exchange rate
 
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Mamonetti said:
It's hard to tell, but I believe the evolution of this number during this year is going to be really representative of what patrons think about the current situation regarding development speed (not so much about quality, quantity or the story itself). After a couple more updates we'll see how things go.

What would be really informative is the amount of money L&P is receiving. I'm sure many patrons have switched to a lower level and that's why he/she decided to hide it.

Regards
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You must understand that most patrons don't talk at all on Patreon.Many don't even download the game.They just support the creator,not the game.
 
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