Militia Groups

Hot Mega said:

I guess my biggest point to this thread was to show how consistency challenged some of these loons are.

Unemployment insurance is mandated insurance but most of these clowns are on unemployment as their state's one trick pony...logging has tanked.

However, they claim laughably unemployment is different from the health care bill because unemployment is "insurance"..It is ("different")????:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Where can I get a ticket to the ride these jokers are on???

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Will E Worm said:

The militias can be called up by the President and that is the only power he has over them.

Every able bodied American male citizen is a part of the militia.
They just need to be organized.

The militia isn't the "National Guard." They did not exist at the founding of this country.

It's people like the Hutaree that are being railroaded and lied about.

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Facetious said:

I know that this post is a mess in terms of being organized but I gotta get my butt back to work now . . . so here it is anyway FWIW. :hatsoff:
I'm a bit weary of the government going around at will making claims that so called militia groups are ''about to'' . . . fill in the blank without clear substantiation that there is or was a threat in the first place. How can we be sure that our government simply doesn't have a vendetta against a certain group or figure ?


Other questions :

Why does the government honor non profit status to groups that have very suspecting affiliations with terrorist organizations abroad ?

Why were janet napolitano and leon panetta appointed to head the DHLS and CIA, when the two characters don't have a comprehensive background in the field of intel, should we just consider them as ''Yes man'' and ''Yes woman'' ?
It sure looks like it to me.

Why did napolitano, months ago, alert the nation about the potential dangers of returning veterans going fringe ?

Why did napolitano, months back announce that there is a growing trend toward radicalism within the christian community, are they appeasing anybody in particular with these charges or are they attempting to intimidate a particular community that generally leans to the right as far as politics are concerned ?

What is the government's criteria for labeling such domestic terrorists as christian ?

Why is the government more or less indifferent toward the comings and goings of non Americans particularly on our Southern borders while they pay lip service to the American people claiming that they're actually vigilant about border enforcement ?

I reiterate : How could the government possibly substantiate a fact about something that hasn't yet occurred ? Well, we let attorneys figure this stuff out in court, that is, if we have the financial backing to do so, if not, well, we're pretty much at the mercy of our governments
The truth to the matter is that the fedz can take down any network, membership or organization they wish and they have and they do, scary shit !

. . and then I look around at all of these special privilege tax exempt 501C3 ''non profit'' organizations and or people who essentially have license to make a profit and not pay taxes and it disturbs me greatly.

As they say, membership has it's privileges . . .
it certainly doesn't hurt to have an accomplished attorney on your side either. Nope, nuthin's equal here in America . . never has been, never will be.

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meesterperfect said:

so your point here is that most members of militia groups are on unemployment?
ok,
so most of them have only been in a militia group for less than a year becuase normally the maximum one can collect is about 6 months.

mega many of your post do have merit as one sided as they may be, but this ones just lame.

did you know most blacks and mexicans in california collect welfare?
what if i posted a thread like that?
how would you respond?

p.s. if unemployment insurance wasnt meant to be collected when one becomes unemployed then why does the GOV make every legal worker pay into it?
And if you feel that way about unemployment then how do you feel about welfare people getting a check each year of 2,500 per kid they have, even though they've paid no fed tax and have already lived free off the system all year ?

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No_Man said:

Unemployment insurance is a great example of how the healthcare bill could have been written, but wasn't. The federal unemployment tax is used solely for the purpose of 1) extended unemployment benefits during severe economic conditions, 2) loans and grants to state agencies, 3) administrative costs.

Most of the taxes levied and benefits offered for unemployment insurance are regulated and offered by individual states. So unemployment insurance is essentially a state program with a federal safety net. And because of this, it is far more Constitutional than a nationwide healthcare bill that supersedes all state authority over healthcare regulation and healthcare social services.

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revidffum said:

The way I look at it is like this....in simple terms, so take it for what it is....Mega...I'm looking at you.

#1) Unemployment, not only being a State program, is also something you receive, AFTER you've been employed, and something your employer pays into. The health care bill gives benefits to people you have not worked, and CHOOSE not to work, even when they could , and it comes out of my pocket, not my employers, and I have no choice in the matter.

#2) Not only is it ridicules to lump all militia groups into the same category, it's down right pathetic to even begin to suggest that the Government doesn't have an agenda against them, and wouldn't generate the "proof" necessary to arrest them, and charge them. Now a days, all you have to do is criticize our leaders, and you're considered a terrorist threat to our country...I guess people have forgotten McCarthyism.

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meesterperfect said:

i see your point mega.
i just A- dont think the article is accurate and B- dont think its an accurate comparison.

the way i see it is, if theyre gonna make me pay into it for years and years hell i might as well actually use it one day and try to recoup my money theyve taken.
but if i had my way i would just keep the money from the get go and take care of myself with it.

wasnt it some republican who tried to pass a law saying that you can invest some of your money in personal investments and get a large break in social security deductions?
wouldnt that stimulate the fuck out of the economy also?
and wasnt it the dems that killed it?
why? because they want that dough so they can use it, waste it and give it to whom they deem worthy if unfortunately they live past retirement age.
i know its a little off topic but it is similar

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