TM said:Aegerius said:
Hmm.. I can see how people may like Takumi. I'm sure overall he had somewhat of a good intention, it's just that I really don't agree with his ways to handle things and the things he's done. This is a hell of a debate I've read though.
Takumi is a player, but he did admittedly own up to it and married Nana. It's just that, I've also read the manga too and he didn't seem to get any better from then on to me. I can see how people like him, I just personally don't xD.
The Anime is a big no no. I was talking about the Manga.
If you were to view this realistically, nana should've been on birth control AND she's not a child to have sex with no condom. It is much more her responsibility than a man's responsibility when this happen since she's not raped and she consented to the sex. Girls know too well that these things are really big decisions; to have sex with no condom especially when birth control OR PLAN B is not consumed. I can go on with the list on how Nana carelessly handled the situation and played the victim. Bottom line, men don't own up to those things and thats why women should know better. Nana knew he was a player, she knew he was passing his time with her. Takumi on the other hand accepted her decision when she said she wants to keep the baby. He provided her everything financially from security to baby funds. He set her future. Take in account that he is young and successful. He could've walked the other way and provided funds instead of going through the extra mile of securing her future.
That said, he more than covered his part from playing around and took responsibility. He didn't promise her loyalty nor his heart and Nana doesn't deserve it so far with the way she swings from one man to another so easily. If she enjoys playing the pet then she'd need to know the consequences.
TM said:Aegerius said:
Hmm.. I can see how people may like Takumi. I'm sure overall he had somewhat of a good intention, it's just that I really don't agree with his ways to handle things and the things he's done. This is a hell of a debate I've read though.
Takumi is a player, but he did admittedly own up to it and married Nana. It's just that, I've also read the manga too and he didn't seem to get any better from then on to me. I can see how people like him, I just personally don't xD.
The Anime is a big no no. I was talking about the Manga.
If you were to view this realistically, nana should've been on birth control AND she's not a child to have sex with no condom. It is much more her responsibility than a man's responsibility when this happen since she's not raped and she consented to the sex. Girls know too well that these things are really big decisions; to have sex with no condom especially when birth control OR PLAN B is not consumed. I can go on with the list on how Nana carelessly handled the situation and played the victim. Bottom line, men don't own up to those things and thats why women should know better. Nana knew he was a player, she knew he was passing his time with her. Takumi on the other hand accepted her decision when she said she wants to keep the baby. He provided her everything financially from security to baby funds. He set her future. Take in account that he is young and successful. He could've walked the other way and provided funds instead of going through the extra mile of securing her future.
That said, he more than covered his part from playing around and took responsibility. He didn't promise her loyalty nor his heart and Nana doesn't deserve it so far with the way she swings from one man to another so easily. If she enjoys playing the pet then she'd need to know the consequences.
You have valid points. Ypu should add that they are both stupid. Put in better terms that they both have major problems in their personality's. No this doesn't mean that they are good for each other either.