Jackrito said: PentaFlare said: Can you explain those points to me then? Shinichi-Kun hasn't presented a case against me either. Like I said your role for one and everyone else in my view is proved. Also the way the lynch on Denjax went and your late push to mot be last vote. I also don't like how everything you have been scum read you have just called the person biased. I also see early kills not normal and are more your style of power role hunting. I also know you like to buy times with these games of lynch this person and if I'm wrong I will be next. That is easy to escape from if you know how to play people. Not sure why you think they are only 3 scum either they appear far too weak for only 3. My role could be town aligned too. Has the way I have used it not shown a town motive? Instead of hunting for power roles I have been using it to confirm players who are claiming roles that don't have night actions. A scum player with my role would not check a Miller claim. There is no reason to. I only did it to try and catch Ruu in a lie. Scum would already know if the lie existed Furthermore, my push on Denja could just as easily come from a town motivation. In the past, my big pushes have always come when playing town because I am not as worried about being blamed for a mislynch. I didn't like how close the votes were so I pushed for more. The scum motivation is possible, but less likely when considering how I approach the game. Furthermore, you are forgetting my push on grapefruit when making your read. At the very time I was in your secret club, I was pushing on Grape and discussing that scumread with you. As scum, I would have just given you a reason to suspect my partner which is not how I play. I always go for the perfect scum victory where nobody gets lynched. A lot of your scumread seems to be speculative. You are looking at actions that could be done as either alignment and seeing the scum first. Consider my main actions in the game though, pushing for lynches against two scum players. These actions are what make me frustrated at the people accusing me. I have successfully moved towards a town win condition and I had suspicion thrown at me without a case to back it up. This is the first actual case I can defend myself against and you will notice that I'm finally willing to discuss it. If you have a reason to scumread me, I'll show you why it is flawed, if you don't, I'll be dismissive. There is one town tell that will always work for me. If I catch scum, I'm not scum. You can accuse me all you want of manipulating my meta, but that is not the case. Having a town tell that always works makes it much easier to win as town, so I would never tarnish my town tell just for a small advantage in one game. As scum, I can play just fine without bussing. Finally, what is your opinion on the post Chi said made me 99% town? Has your opinion on that changed? |
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| So, penta dies tomorrow and then it is either jack or qoko. I am fine with that. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: Like I said your role for one and everyone else in my view is proved. Also the way the lynch on Denjax went and your late push to mot be last vote. I also don't like how everything you have been scum read you have just called the person biased. I also see early kills not normal and are more your style of power role hunting. I also know you like to buy times with these games of lynch this person and if I'm wrong I will be next. That is easy to escape from if you know how to play people. Not sure why you think they are only 3 scum either they appear far too weak for only 3. @Pentaflare my biggest issue is the denja lynch your push just seemed off and the major issue is one that kit broguth up i mean i defended it cause my reasoning is logical but at the same time u push risked us losing a power role, also another issue i have which honestly just came to my mind is this. You think jack is scum but you saved him with that tie o.O You were in Shounen Crossover, right? How does my push on Denja feel compared to my equally strong push on Claire in that game? You know for sure the Claire push was me as town, see if you can connect the dots in the mindset. |
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| Also, I never saved Jackrito with a tie. I tried to get him lynched but messed up the tally in my head. |
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PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: @Pentaflare my biggest issue is the denja lynch your push just seemed off and the major issue is one that kit broguth up i mean i defended it cause my reasoning is logical but at the same time u push risked us losing a power role, also another issue i have which honestly just came to my mind is this. You think jack is scum but you saved him with that tie o.O You were in Shounen Crossover, right? How does my push on Denja feel compared to my equally strong push on Claire in that game? You know for sure the Claire push was me as town, see if you can connect the dots in the mindset. idc about past games lol i mean sure ill read them but past games and meta dont effect how i read people. |
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PentaFlare said: Kit said: I mean now that aa-dono is dead. If qoco is scum then tomorrow we should be lynching him Sure, but I'm pretty sure there would only be three scum, so if Qoco is scum, instead of making a case against him, everyone can just lynch me, have factual proof that Qoco is scum, and then lynch Qoco. It works as long as Jack is town. What kind of logic is that? Wtf. |
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| cant believe no one has posted lol since 11pm yesterday |
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Shinichi-Kun said: It's night with a small number remaining not very surprising. cant believe no one has posted lol since 11pm yesterday |
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Day 6 "I never asked for this power." Yumeno, Q, shouted at the man coming near him in the dark. Q had prepared his body to take the most damage possible, this would allow him to win and control the mind of his opponent. However, there was not enough time. The puppet was knocked from Q's hand in combat and with it Q was unable to use the curse. "Why doesn't god love me?" Kit has died They were: When is it night? So...24 hour phase or want to keep the 48 hour phase? Let me know! @Logic340, @Shinichi-Kun, @Kit, @Aa-dono, @Jackrito, @Grrr, @Karote, @Pentaflare, @LucianRoy, @Qoco, @DenjaX |
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| why the miller wtf? |
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| They really didnt want jack to have a new neighbor to talked too o.O |
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| trying to figure out if kit dieing clears jack or makes him more supicious. |
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| Vote:penta |
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Shinichi-Kun said: why the miller wtf? Least chance of been saved would be my guess, thought it would be you or Grr though tbh, Also means my ability was a waste for today so just me in my club which sucks. |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: why the miller wtf? Least chance of been saved would be my guess, thought it would be you or Grr though tbh, Also means my ability was a waste for today so just me in my club which sucks. logically it should have been grrr idk why kit, we literally couldnt prove her alignment |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: Least chance of been saved would be my guess, thought it would be you or Grr though tbh, Also means my ability was a waste for today so just me in my club which sucks. logically it should have been grrr idk why kit, we literally couldnt prove her alignment Pretty much with the POE so small I don't understand why you would kill someone in it, Kit was likely town with the reverse miller been scum but not certain so better to keep them alive |
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| @pentaflare u got any info for us? |
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PentaFlare said: Jackrito said: Like I said your role for one and everyone else in my view is proved. Also the way the lynch on Denjax went and your late push to mot be last vote. I also don't like how everything you have been scum read you have just called the person biased. I also see early kills not normal and are more your style of power role hunting. I also know you like to buy times with these games of lynch this person and if I'm wrong I will be next. That is easy to escape from if you know how to play people. Not sure why you think they are only 3 scum either they appear far too weak for only 3. My role could be town aligned too. Has the way I have used it not shown a town motive? Instead of hunting for power roles I have been using it to confirm players who are claiming roles that don't have night actions. A scum player with my role would not check a Miller claim. There is no reason to. I only did it to try and catch Ruu in a lie. Scum would already know if the lie existed Furthermore, my push on Denja could just as easily come from a town motivation. In the past, my big pushes have always come when playing town because I am not as worried about being blamed for a mislynch. I didn't like how close the votes were so I pushed for more. The scum motivation is possible, but less likely when considering how I approach the game. Furthermore, you are forgetting my push on grapefruit when making your read. At the very time I was in your secret club, I was pushing on Grape and discussing that scumread with you. As scum, I would have just given you a reason to suspect my partner which is not how I play. I always go for the perfect scum victory where nobody gets lynched. A lot of your scumread seems to be speculative. You are looking at actions that could be done as either alignment and seeing the scum first. Consider my main actions in the game though, pushing for lynches against two scum players. These actions are what make me frustrated at the people accusing me. I have successfully moved towards a town win condition and I had suspicion thrown at me without a case to back it up. This is the first actual case I can defend myself against and you will notice that I'm finally willing to discuss it. If you have a reason to scumread me, I'll show you why it is flawed, if you don't, I'll be dismissive. There is one town tell that will always work for me. If I catch scum, I'm not scum. You can accuse me all you want of manipulating my meta, but that is not the case. Having a town tell that always works makes it much easier to win as town, so I would never tarnish my town tell just for a small advantage in one game. As scum, I can play just fine without bussing. Finally, what is your opinion on the post Chi said made me 99% town? Has your opinion on that changed? All of the first part is true but I have no way to prove you were even telling the truth on that role or the info, it just seems like a strange role to have in this setup imo but I know better to meta host. Push on Denjax can come from town yes, but not sure I buy your thing you would only do a big push as town, playstyles can change after all but fair point this is a hard push. Denjax was obv trying to get lynched that day by his judas claim imo so your late push for votes looks worse in that aspect off their role. I don't like selfmeta reads especially since you are aware of them, I know you don't normally bus but Grape may of told you to push him for all I know he was not having a great game tbh. Ok I can't argue with any of this tbh, you make a solid case your actions are pretty town, and I don't think you would do them as scum, bussing is something that every scum player will do at some point to win so your stance on this will change at some point. Last question though why are you so sure they is only 3 scum this game, and on Chione's post after your Argument I would say it holds true, if not you then who is it. |
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| @jackrito I still believe grrr is town because if he was the mafia doctor he would have had no reason to save me uunless he was afraid of being suspected but even then that would be silly cause we had no way of proving the actually doctor existed. Also even if the last mafia saw no reason to killl grrr i just cant see why he would pick kit, i mean u understand because ur someone others suspect. It might be because she suspects penta more than you jack. |
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| @jackrito also during the next night invite me back to your club so i can test out a theory. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: @jackrito I still believe grrr is town because if he was the mafia doctor he would have had no reason to save me uunless he was afraid of being suspected but even then that would be silly cause we had no way of proving the actually doctor existed. Also even if the last mafia saw no reason to killl grrr i just cant see why he would pick kit, i mean u understand because ur someone others suspect. It might be because she suspects penta more than you jack. Oh yeah I think grr is town, we would need a doctor in this setup imo. Mafia doctor is too rare of a role to be thought about imo. |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: @jackrito also during the next night invite me back to your club so i can test out a theory. if I live today I will. Well i have a theory that if true makes u scum but cant really prove it till the next day phase |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Well i have a theory that if true makes u scum but cant really prove it till the next day phase Ok interesting yeah sure it is no problem I can invite you. |
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Qoco did perform an action. That must have been the night kill. |
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Jackrito said: PentaFlare said: My role could be town aligned too. Has the way I have used it not shown a town motive? Instead of hunting for power roles I have been using it to confirm players who are claiming roles that don't have night actions. A scum player with my role would not check a Miller claim. There is no reason to. I only did it to try and catch Ruu in a lie. Scum would already know if the lie existed Furthermore, my push on Denja could just as easily come from a town motivation. In the past, my big pushes have always come when playing town because I am not as worried about being blamed for a mislynch. I didn't like how close the votes were so I pushed for more. The scum motivation is possible, but less likely when considering how I approach the game. Furthermore, you are forgetting my push on grapefruit when making your read. At the very time I was in your secret club, I was pushing on Grape and discussing that scumread with you. As scum, I would have just given you a reason to suspect my partner which is not how I play. I always go for the perfect scum victory where nobody gets lynched. A lot of your scumread seems to be speculative. You are looking at actions that could be done as either alignment and seeing the scum first. Consider my main actions in the game though, pushing for lynches against two scum players. These actions are what make me frustrated at the people accusing me. I have successfully moved towards a town win condition and I had suspicion thrown at me without a case to back it up. This is the first actual case I can defend myself against and you will notice that I'm finally willing to discuss it. If you have a reason to scumread me, I'll show you why it is flawed, if you don't, I'll be dismissive. There is one town tell that will always work for me. If I catch scum, I'm not scum. You can accuse me all you want of manipulating my meta, but that is not the case. Having a town tell that always works makes it much easier to win as town, so I would never tarnish my town tell just for a small advantage in one game. As scum, I can play just fine without bussing. Finally, what is your opinion on the post Chi said made me 99% town? Has your opinion on that changed? All of the first part is true but I have no way to prove you were even telling the truth on that role or the info, it just seems like a strange role to have in this setup imo but I know better to meta host. Push on Denjax can come from town yes, but not sure I buy your thing you would only do a big push as town, playstyles can change after all but fair point this is a hard push. Denjax was obv trying to get lynched that day by his judas claim imo so your late push for votes looks worse in that aspect off their role. I don't like selfmeta reads especially since you are aware of them, I know you don't normally bus but Grape may of told you to push him for all I know he was not having a great game tbh. Ok I can't argue with any of this tbh, you make a solid case your actions are pretty town, and I don't think you would do them as scum, bussing is something that every scum player will do at some point to win so your stance on this will change at some point. Last question though why are you so sure they is only 3 scum this game, and on Chione's post after your Argument I would say it holds true, if not you then who is it. I'm assuming there are three scum because of the ratios this game. It is very close to all the other recent games which have had three scum with about 13 players. Because the scum have a vengeful, it accounts for the extra town number. It just makes sense to have 3. |
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| @Jackrito @Shinichi-kun @grrr I am certain enough in there being three scum that I am willing to lynch myself off to prove that my results about Qoco is true and that they are scum, but the game can end faster if we just lynch Qoco. Your call. |
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| @jackrito what do u wanna do? We still have another whole day phase after this one. |
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| vote shichi-kun |
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| Vote: Qoco I'll leave this for now but am just fine switching to myself. |
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grrr said: vote shichi-kun what why? this isnt the time to vote me out of spite or a grudge. |
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| I think it is the perfect time. How will you explain that you are alive? Everyone knows i would never peotect you over me. I would rather lose the game then saving your life lol. So why are you alive? Give me your best explanation! |
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I didn't do shit. |
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grrr said: I think it is the perfect time. How will you explain that you are alive? Everyone knows i would never peotect you over me. I would rather lose the game then saving your life lol. So why are you alive? Give me your best explanation! what why would mafia kill me lol im essentially a vanilla town, also if u ever choose to lose the game cause of a personal grudge that would be game throwing. |
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grrr said: I think it is the perfect time. How will you explain that you are alive? Everyone knows i would never peotect you over me. I would rather lose the game then saving your life lol. So why are you alive? Give me your best explanation! Only logical people for the scum aligned person to kill during the night was you/kit/penta/jack/qc caue u all have pr's while im the 1 shot LR that used his ability. |
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We gotta weigh out who is most likely lieing. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: @jackrito what do u wanna do? We still have another whole day phase after this one. Up to you best move imo is to lynch Quco to see if Penta is lying if he is we lynch Penta and win, those are the only two left if you trust me and Grr anyway. So should be the win |
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| ote: qoco |
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| vote: qoco |
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| Vote: PentaFlare |
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I don't even think I've been online enough to submit night actions lmfao. I wish I could say that I was Mafia. I probably wouldn't be struggling as much. |
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Vote Count 6.0 Qoco: PentaFlare, grrr Pentaflare: Shinichi-Kun, Qoco Not Voting: Jackrito What has already transpired Phase Day one! || Vote count 1.1 || 1.2 || 1.3 || 1.4 || 1.5 || 1.6 || 1.7 || 1.8 || 1.9 || 1.10 || 1.11 || 1.12 || 1.13 || 1.14 || 1.15 Night one Day 2 || Vote Count 2.0 || 2.1 || 2.2 || 2.3 || 2.4 || 2.5 || 2.6 || 2.7 || 2.8 || 2.9 || 2.10 || 2.11 Night 2 Day 3 || Vote Count 3.0 || 3.1 || 3.2 || 3.3 || 3.4 || 3.5 || 3.6 || 3.7 || 3.8 || 3.9 || 3.10 || 3.11 Night 3 Day 4 || 4.1 || 4.2 || 4.3 || 4.4 || 4.5 || 4.6 || 4.7 || 4.8 || 4.9 || 4.10 || 4.Final Night 4 Day 5 || 5.0 || 5.1 || 5.2 || 5.Final Night 5 Day 6 || 6.0 |
SoulEaterQUEENMay 3, 2017 10:27 AM
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| vote change: penta |
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| I dont want 2 to 3 votes. Too risky. I want 4 to 1. |
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Qoco said: I don't even think I've been online enough to submit night actions lmfao. I wish I could say that I was Mafia. I probably wouldn't be struggling as much. this is something i thought of due to knowing that u also forgot to sumbit your zombie infection night 1 in castle panic |
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| Eh, I guess I'm dying first then. |
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